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Thread: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

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    So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Just wondering. Many of the new options lacked info... Still...excellent job!
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    such as?
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Here are a few Catagories and the associated item that the help info is blank.


    Engine Over Temperature
    Engine Over Temp Fuel Mult vs. RPM:

    Catalytic Converter Protection (COT)
    Air Fuel Ratio:

    Torque Timing
    Max Torque Timing vs. RPM vs. Cyl Air:


    Also, the A/C controls are missing info, specifically what does the delay timer do?
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Yes, particularly the Max Torque Timing table. Very mysterious.
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    this table is the mean best timing (or timing where maximum torque is "in theory" produced). All of the torque calculations the PCM uses (based on airflow, RPM etc. are refernced to max torque. Then the final torque values is corrected by how much your current timing is away from the max torque timing.

    Not something i would go messing with personally. We put it in mostly as a reference (although if you go changing the mechanicals of your engine then a good chance the thoretical MBT should change). I don't know how GM populates this table (before you ask).

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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    I notice that it seems to work better (for the clarity or
    usefulness of the explanation) when we users pose
    focused questions and the gurus answer. It's very hard
    to write good help docs. Especially when you know the
    underlying matter so well that some things just start
    to feel obvious.

    I'm thinking maybe there would be some value to a
    "Helpless document", something that is organized just
    like the Help document but consists entirely of open
    questions provided by users (who would have to try
    and keep to the subject, etc.). The object being to
    depopulate that one by detailed answers, as it is
    to populate the real Help doc.


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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Also, if I remember right, transient fuel has nothing either.
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyblue
    I notice that it seems to work better (for the clarity or
    usefulness of the explanation) when we users pose
    focused questions and the gurus answer. It's very hard
    to write good help docs. Especially when you know the
    underlying matter so well that some things just start
    to feel obvious.

    I'm thinking maybe there would be some value to a
    "Helpless document", something that is organized just
    like the Help document but consists entirely of open
    questions provided by users (who would have to try
    and keep to the subject, etc.). The object being to
    depopulate that one by detailed answers, as it is
    to populate the real Help doc.
    very good idea. How we execute it might be a challenge... via the forum?

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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Holy crap...that forum would get so big we would never be able to wade through it.
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    I think it would have to have an "inside man" to work.
    I think the forum is maybe too chaotic to do this, unless
    there was perhaps a way of "tagging" messages in the
    Help forum so the docs-related questions could be
    sifted from the "check your cigarette lighter fuse" noise.
    Maybe that wouldn't be so bad, like if people who were
    serious about the process tagged their inputs with
    "Help Docs: {section>section>item}" or whatever. At
    least that would be obvious enough to the DPB for
    documentation (Designated Poor Bastard) to see amid
    the chaff.

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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    how about this:

    - we create an email alias like "[email protected]"
    - you send emails regarding help file to that
    - DPB (me) reads/filters emails and posts questions in a sticky+locked thread, with estimated resolution date, when it has been answered, when new help file has been posted to the web etc.

    yeah?
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Sounds like that would work.
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    Re: So, like...the v1.5 help file isn't finished?

    Sounds like a plan to me.
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