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    The logs I have with the multiplier tables at 5 do compute to having a 20* offset in the scan tool , I got a finalized tune I’m gonna flash in today and run it .

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    On my 03 i had to make some math in vcm scanner to have pilot timing showing the right value...

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    I don?t have that issue on my mm3, it shows right on the touch screen and in the logs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAIDENCR View Post
    On my 03 i had to make some math in vcm scanner to have pilot timing showing the right value...
    What did you have to do? I don't mind it being off now that I know what its doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim P View Post
    I don?t have that issue on my mm3, it shows right on the touch screen and in the logs
    Vcm scanner doesnt show the real pilot timing...dont ask me why i dont know...but i talked with a professionnal tuner and he confirm me this issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooled05 View Post
    What did you have to do? I don't mind it being off now that I know what its doing.
    You have a facebook or something? Will be easier to show you

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    In VCM editor you can create custom PIDs. You can make a math one, basically the ID number of your pilot timing-20 and you log the custom math PID you made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAIDENCR View Post
    You have a facebook or something? Will be easier to show you
    Zack Nicholson weatherford tx

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooled05 View Post
    Zack Nicholson weatherford tx
    There is too much Zach nicholson ahahah
    Mine is Marc-Andre Laramee...my profile picture is a compressor of a turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAIDENCR View Post
    There is too much Zach nicholson ahahah
    Mine is Marc-Andre Laramee...my profile picture is a compressor of a turbo
    Sent u a message

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    Get the pilot all figured out?

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    Also, working on complete timing calculators for the 2004.5-2007 5.9 and 2010+ 6.7 engines. They will have pilot, main and post events in them for those who would be interested in them. The 6.7 will come first.

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    I thought timing calculators were junk and useless? I was told to forget about them.

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    They are information tools only. They don?t dictate where to set your timing, you as the user dictates the desired outcome of what it gives you.

    I personally use pilot timing calculations to set the pilot event to a specific timing value and that?s it. Every adjustment I make to the main event, I go back and redo the pilot timing to keep it at my desired timing value.

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    I can build into them to show information like what would happen to the main event duration if you increase rail pressure and things of that nature. Information only. The user controls all outcomes of it and it in no way tells the user where to set anything for optimal results or anything of that nature. One could be built to give theoretical optimal timing based on temperatures and all that but that requires extensive knowledge of thermodynamics and formulas beyond what is worth getting into.

    The primary thing people fail to understand with them is they are information only tools and in no way tell you where to set things for optimal results and that the user completely controls all outputs from it based on what the user enters in.
    Last edited by Jim P; 03-04-2020 at 08:10 PM.

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    Yes sir ,all seems to be working correctly. Thanks for all the help , what would it take to get you to do the trans tuning for me ?

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    I?m charging out $150USD to setup the 48RE?s.

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    Been logging some more and the 20* offset is definitely confirmed and my logger is logging pilot from TDC . Just putting it out there for anyone else wondering.

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    Did HP Tuners ever fix this issue?

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    What issue? No issue here with pilot timing I?m aware of.