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    Track Map: I've added it to the project, but all I see is a blue dot

    New user here, just 4 hours since I bought the Ultimate
    I tested the free version and added a track map without issue.
    But now that I bought the package, I don't see the map.
    I've added the Track Map display object.... it shows as a blue dot.
    I can move it up and down, or even make it bigger, but all that does is make the blue dot larger
    or move it around the screen.

    Clearly I'm doing something wrong. I hope is trivial and someone can enlighten me.
    Thanks

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    In the Display Object Properties for the map, there should be a "Draw Map" checkbox. If you want to see the background, then you'll need to make sure that is checked.

    That checkbox (as well as the Vehicle Position checkbox) can be used to display or hide either the track map or the dot/arrow for your current position.

    I'd highly recommend taking a look at all of the options there since a lot of them are very useful and can make the output look really nice.

    Looking forward to what you put together!

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    I've got the Draw Map checked.
    I get a dot, and I can move it and make it bigger or smaller
    But I don't get any track image. Here is a screen shot that may show what I've got.

    (not sure if the attached screenshot is attached. I'll post the reply and add another if there is no image.)

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    Here is a link, can't seem to get the small jpg to attach.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rcwih7wy...ckMap.jpg?dl=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatFarrell View Post
    Here is a link, can't seem to get the small jpg to attach.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/74rcwih7wy...ckMap.jpg?dl=0
    Hmm... I wonder if this is another case of a stray coordinate causing issues. All of choices there seem fine. I suppose it could also be that RaceRender thinks you have a very short "First Lap" in combination with a stray coordinate making it very hard to see what's happening.

    Can you post your data file? If you're just importing it from your GoPro, you can right click on it in the Input Files, go to Export Data..., select CSV / Spreadsheet (All Data Channels).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboBob View Post
    Hmm... I wonder if this is another case of a stray coordinate causing issues.. I suppose it could also be that RaceRender thinks you have a very short First Lap in combination with a stray coordinate making it very hard to see what's happening.

    Can you post your data file? If you're just importing it from your GoPro, you can right click on it in the Input Files, go to Export Data..., select CSV / Spreadsheet (All Data Channels).
    Sure, I'll go try to export it. I do know that for the first 15 minutes or so, I was hanging close to the parking area, then we did 20+ miles of riding.
    So if its focusing on GPS data from the first minutes of the ride, one big dot might be right.

    I had RaceRender slurp in all the files, I think there are 21 clips. I hope that it pulled in all the GPS data, and not just from the first files.

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    There are more than a thousand lines at the start of the data files that show that the GPS was not working, or was not recording useful information.

    Here is the CSV version
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tacpv7y6bn...erged.csv?dl=0
    Here is the GPX formatted version
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyhdiqtjrl...orted.gpx?dl=0

    The entries have a timestamp, but the lat/long and elevation are all zeros.

    <trkpt lat="0.0000000" lon="0.0000000">
    <ele>0.0</ele>
    <time>2021-04-27T15:09:12Z</time>
    </trkpt>

    After the 1800 or so track points of 0, there are 3200 non-zero lines that all have the same identical lat/long and elevation

    This data came from RaceRender, it read the data directly from the .MP4 files.

    As a further test, I used the https://goprotelemetryextractor.com/free/ site to extract GPX data from the video, and it found lots of real datapoints even in the first video clip file. So something is confusing RaceRender.

    Here is the data from the using the telemetry extractor on the first video file:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qh13smh7s...acted.gpx?dl=0
    Last edited by PatFarrell; 04-29-2021 at 08:44 PM. Reason: add comment about data in video file

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatFarrell View Post
    There are more than a thousand lines at the start of the data files that show that the GPS was not working, or was not recording useful information.

    Here is the CSV version
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tacpv7y6bn...erged.csv?dl=0
    Here is the GPX formatted version
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyhdiqtjrl...orted.gpx?dl=0

    The entries have a timestamp, but the lat/long and elevation are all zeros.

    <trkpt lat="0.0000000" lon="0.0000000">
    <ele>0.0</ele>
    <time>2021-04-27T15:09:12Z</time>
    </trkpt>

    After the 1800 or so track points of 0, there are 3200 non-zero lines that all have the same identical lat/long and elevation

    This data came from RaceRender, it read the data directly from the .MP4 files.

    As a further test, I used the https://goprotelemetryextractor.com/free/ site to extract GPX data from the video, and it found lots of real datapoints even in the first video clip file. So something is confusing RaceRender.

    Here is the data from the using the telemetry extractor on the first video file:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qh13smh7s...acted.gpx?dl=0
    That's really strange. That many rows at 0,0 would definitely do it. I'm assuming that just means that it was acquiring satellite signal or that it lost signal during those times.

    Maybe you can try importing them individually and then synchronizing them one after the other? That would be quite a bit more work than just a single import... Alternatively, if you see the data files look good on each extraction, you can just append them all together into one giant CSV (or GPX) file. Maybe you'd have better results combining the files from the extractor website?

    In your CSV, I'm seeing times that I don't really understand... The first 106 rows all have a time of April 27th, but then it jumps to January 2054? And then after another ~2000 rows, it jumps to September 2086. So, I'm guessing something with RaceRender's export is off there.

    I would guess that most users are only combining three or fewer videos at a time; so maybe the large number of files is causing issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboBob View Post
    Maybe you can try importing them individually and then synchronizing them one after the other? That would be quite a bit more work than just a single import... Alternatively, if you see the data files look good on each extraction, you can just append them all together into one giant CSV (or GPX) file. Maybe you'd have better results combining the files from the extractor website?
    So, I'm guessing something with RaceRender's export is off there.

    I would guess that most users are only combining three or fewer videos at a time; so maybe the large number of files is causing issues?
    So far, I can't tell if its RR's export, or its import process, or if there is real data in the GPS.
    Since GoPro embeds the GPS data as private metadata in the MP4 file, its not easy to see what is there. That will take more investigation.

    I had other GPX files from that ride. I'm trying to use one of those sources right now. I've got RR rendering some output now. Its going to take a long time.

    While I have 27 files, they are really only six real clips. the GoPro 9 has to chop the video into 4GB files. At high resolution and high frame rate, they get big quickly.

    These big files and kinda large number of files makes processing take a lot of time. So each step in the debugging process is many hours.