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Thread: 6R80 swap on a 2005 expedition it is posible?

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    6R80 swap on a 2005 expedition it is posible?

    hi any one that can tell if is this swap posible or i just bite the bullet and overhaul my old 4r70w ... I have acces to 6r80 from 09-10 trucks so i just need to know if the pcm or modules are compatible with this kind of swaps ...i mean on chevy i know i can swap a 4l60 to a 4l80 or even a 6l80/90 but on fords im on the dark so any info from the big dogs on ford that can share some knowledge??

    sorry the truckis a 2005 ford expedition 4x4 5.4 3V withthe 4r70w and electric transfer (i dont mind putting a transfer shifter if is necesary)
    all the way from Tampico bay Mexico

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    You would need a pcm from a 09-10 f150 or expedition navigator. But If you have access to a 11-14 you can use a copper head or stand alone quick 6 inline with the pcm. The trans has a mechitronic unit on the 09-10 6r80 and differs from the 11-14 on the valve body. The 09-10 6r80 uses HS can to operate the tcm and data is sent to pcm. The 11-14 uses pcm to control 6r80 (copperhead 2048k) You will have to move pins as well as get the 09-10 pcm or 11-14 pcm and lead frame for copperhead setup as well as pcm connectors either way. The quick 6 is great also but it has to be a gen 2 unit the unit is a lot better and parameters are also. With the 09-10 pcm you will need 2 wide band o2s and the tcm harness some are separate on the f150 and together with engine harness on the expedition I?m pretty sure. If you need help let me know have wiring diagrams it?s different from 09-10 pcm vs your 05. It?s a ton of work to be honest I have done something similar in upgrading my 6r75 08 expedition to a 14 6r80 and I?m using both a copperhead pcm and quick 6 linked together to get data to the pcm and to the standalone.

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    damn Lost0187 its a lot of work but i can do it ..... maybe im gonna need those diagrams i was told that the very first 6R has the tcm apart and thats the one i can get to work here but i think im gonna have to double check that data
    all the way from Tampico bay Mexico

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    Hello, I am swapping a 6r80 into an 05 F150 4x4. I understand that I will have to change some of the pins in the tcm harness. Do you have the necessary diagrams? Thanks