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    2007 3v - idle source "lockout"

    Been running into a few things with a 07 3v gt. One of the questions i have yet to have answered is what exactly is "lockout" in idle source? Im having some high idle/erratic idling that often happens when source is "lockout".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boost4Breakfast View Post
    Been running into a few things with a 07 3v gt. One of the questions i have yet to have answered is what exactly is "lockout" in idle source? Im having some high idle/erratic idling that often happens when source is "lockout".
    so its an IDLE MODE FLAG. when your data log do you get lockout? there a couple flag modes, you want to be in (0) Dashpot normal driving. check you throttle body connections.

    -1 Dashpot Take foot off gas
    0 Dashpot Proposition Normal Driving
    1 RPM Control Mode RPM control mode
    2 RPM Lockout mode RPM outside dead band
    also all of these for modular
    Spark source values:
    0 Crank or underspeed
    1 Base
    2 Borderline
    3 Torque control
    4 Pre-ignition
    6 Stabilized low load
    7 Cold engine low load
    8 Idle feedback at minimum clip
    9 Idle feedback
    10 Spark set by on-demand self-test
    15 Output State Control
    16 Foreground Spark Borderline Clip
    18 Closed-Throttle Deceleration Spark

    Fuel Source
    0 -> Closed Loop fuel control mode is active.
    1 -> Cylinder cutout - Stabilized - Short Term Fuel Trim at lean stability limit.
    2 -> Some Exhaust Component too hot - Enrich Short Term Fuel Trim to cool exhaust temperatures.
    3 -> Cylinder cutout - Stabilized - Short Term Fuel Trim controlled by torque control feature.
    4 -> Cold engine/startup open loop logic - Cold start up engine table
    5 -> Stabilized normal driveability logic - Base fuel Table
    6 -> Lean fuel error logic.
    7 -> Engine running EGO monitoring testing - intrusive Short Term Fuel Trim control.
    8 -> Engine running On-Demand testing - Short Term Fuel Trim controlled by OBD-II exec.
    9 -> Cylinder cutout - Cold Engine - Short Term Fuel Trim controlled rich to avoid stumbles.
    10 -> Snap Adaptive - ramping Short Term Fuel Trim towards stoic for KAM update.
    12 -> Thermactor Air test - intrusive Short Term Fuel Trim control.
    13 -> Open Loop Development override - Short Term Fuel Trim set to calibrated scalar.

    TQ_SOURCE = Identifies the source of the torque reduction requestor;
    0 -> No Torque Reduction Requested (Torque Control Off)
    1 -> Torque truncation, transmission
    2 -> Traction Control
    3 -> Vehicle Speed Limiter
    4 -> Engine Speed Limiter
    5 -> Tip-in shock Control
    6 -> Tip-out Decel Control
    7 -> Torque Shift Modulation, transmission
    8 -> Engine Oil Temperature Control
    9 -> Fail Safe Cooling Control
    11 -> Turbo Charger
    12 -> Passive Anti Theft system (PATS)
    13 -> Tipin Torque Control


    TQ_SOURCE - Source of torque reduction:

    0 - Driver Demand
    1 - Transmission torque truncation
    2 - Traction Control
    3 - Vehicle Speed Limiting
    4 - Engine Speed Limiting
    5 - Tipin rate limiting
    6 - Tipout torque
    7 - Transmission Shift Modulation
    8 - Engine Oil Over temperature
    9 - Target N
    10 - Not Used
    11 - ETC FMEM - RPM Guard
    12 - PATS
    13 - OSCMOD
    14 - Speed Control

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    Yea, Idle Speed Control Mode = lockout at certain times while trying to idle. Sometimes itll stay like that and high idle for a few mins, other times itl settls into rpm control and idle correctly

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    Have also had it go into etc fmem-rpm guard once or twice - not sure whats causing that. Have ipc error check at 120k while figuring out what is causing the lockout

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    Oh, and some more info. It has a bbk 62mm (twin) tb and a roush cai. Has a set of lth's but other than that its stock

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    Same EXACT issue. Scrap the bbk TB. I put a stock one on and no more of that non-sense.