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    L67 Dwell time control

    Howdy,

    Does anyone know if the L67 PCM varies the dwell time on the DIS coils and if so what range of times does it use?

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    Central TEXAS Sleeper
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    1964 Riviera (4.1L Buick Turbo6, 4L80E, L67 PCM)
    2012 Hyundai Genesis Sedan (3.8 GDI, 8spd Aisin)
    1998 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 (454, 4L80E)
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    1967 Skylark Deluxe
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    Hmm. Yeah.. It has a Static Dwell vs Reference Period and a Dwell Time Correction vs Voltage..
    97 Grand Prix GTP (not going to bother listing mods in detail) 1 messed up 97 PCM with about 30-50% of a 2003 calibration and parts of a few others.

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    So it is an editable parameter? For instance I could change it from 3ms to 5ms or add an offset in another table to alter the final value sent to the ICM?

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    Central TEXAS Sleeper
    Experimental Physicist

    Current:
    1964 Riviera (4.1L Buick Turbo6, 4L80E, L67 PCM)
    2012 Hyundai Genesis Sedan (3.8 GDI, 8spd Aisin)
    1998 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 (454, 4L80E)
    SOLD:
    1970 Riviera
    1965 Riviera GS (465 Super Wildcat, SP400) #'s Matching
    1967 Skylark Deluxe
    1997.5 Regal GS

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    Editable.... well, yes.. There are tables for it, I saw it in another tuner... Just not in HP Tuner right now..
    97 Grand Prix GTP (not going to bother listing mods in detail) 1 messed up 97 PCM with about 30-50% of a 2003 calibration and parts of a few others.

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    Grrrr... I'm working on making LS2 coils run off of a stock ICM (still waste spark but forward polarity and bigger spark) and the biggest thing right now in the paper design is that from the documention I can find the DIS Type II coils used on the L67 have a ~3ms dwell time for maximum charge while the LS2 coils have a ~5ms dwell. I did some fancy math with putting in a capacitor and resistor then a voltage regulator but then I'd have to take the main timing table and build in an rpm based offset for the extra 2ms so that the timing would be accurate. If I could edit the table so that the ECM already had the increased dwell time onboard it would greatly simplify it. How close is HP Tuners to adding this table or am I going to have to find someone to change it for me in DHP then do the rest of the programming myself?

    Thanks,
    Central TEXAS Sleeper
    Experimental Physicist

    Current:
    1964 Riviera (4.1L Buick Turbo6, 4L80E, L67 PCM)
    2012 Hyundai Genesis Sedan (3.8 GDI, 8spd Aisin)
    1998 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 (454, 4L80E)
    SOLD:
    1970 Riviera
    1965 Riviera GS (465 Super Wildcat, SP400) #'s Matching
    1967 Skylark Deluxe
    1997.5 Regal GS

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTX-SLPR View Post
    Grrrr... I'm working on making LS2 coils run off of a stock ICM (still waste spark but forward polarity and bigger spark) and the biggest thing right now in the paper design is that from the documention I can find the DIS Type II coils used on the L67 have a ~3ms dwell time for maximum charge while the LS2 coils have a ~5ms dwell. I did some fancy math with putting in a capacitor and resistor then a voltage regulator but then I'd have to take the main timing table and build in an rpm based offset for the extra 2ms so that the timing would be accurate. If I could edit the table so that the ECM already had the increased dwell time onboard it would greatly simplify it. How close is HP Tuners to adding this table or am I going to have to find someone to change it for me in DHP then do the rest of the programming myself?

    Thanks,
    Hmm. Yeah.. Cant say about HPT.. You might be able to request it.. You definately have a very good purpose for it from what I see.

    DHP.. Yeah, they dotn have it mapped either.
    97 Grand Prix GTP (not going to bother listing mods in detail) 1 messed up 97 PCM with about 30-50% of a 2003 calibration and parts of a few others.