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Tuner in Training
89 Beretta 5spd 3400 obd2????
hello i have a 1989 beretta 5 speed. i did the 3400 swap last summer out of an 03 grand am. About 3 weeks ago, i switched to obd2 wiring harness and computer out of a 2000 grand am.....so the problem i'm having is that the car is bogging at wot.... why would it do this???? maybe car is thinking its in limp mode??? Can the car run off this set up even if its a 5 spd? please HELP!!!!
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Advanced Tuner
We'll need more info... logs, swap details, etc.
However from the info provided, I will assume that it's a MAF cal issue. When you did the swap, you probably custom fabbed an intake, thus affecting the flow around the MAF.
Again, it's hard to tell without more info.
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Tuner in Training
yeah it seems the hotter it get the harder it is to pick up speed.ok so if i bit the bullet and get a cold air intake for the car would i be good? pcm for less said they can tune a 2000 grand am 3400 5 spd. and thats what i have but a beretta....sorry but im already in a grand and want to finish this the right way now so let me know thanks?
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Advanced Tuner
Honestly, it's really hard to say what the problem is, without seeing a scan or something.
The thing is, when doing a swap, a lot of parts are 'custom fabbed'. These parts can potentially throw off a tune. Using a canned tune for X vehicle may not be the right way to go, and could make things worse. A custom tune is probably the best way to go.
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Advanced Tuner
Why is it that most motor swaps go this way?
Ton of cash into the swap, zero funds left to get the tune to work right.
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Advanced Tuner
As mentioned in the reply to your PM; unless you have an HPT system, it's not very possible to tune through the net. You'd need a way to scan the car, and a way to flash in the tune.
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Tuner in Training
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Tuner in Training
dtc codes 1989 beretta 3400 5 speed
the dtc codes are po131 po463 po753 po758 p1860 u1000
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Tuner in Training
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Advanced Tuner
Are you sure that the engine and tranny were a package?
P0753, P0758, P1860 are all automatic transmission codes.
Besides that, P463 is a fuel level code... one that is typical of a swap if the level sender was not swapped as well.
Finally, the one that concerns me is P0131. Either you have a leaky exhaust before the O2 sensor, or you are running lean, which could be due to a fueling issue, or vacuum issue.
Edit:
What were the conditions for each log? How did the car act?
As well, can you provide a few pictures of the engine, as it is now?
I'm still convinced that the big issue here is a physical failure on the car, from a part added or not added during the swap.
Last edited by omega_5; 06-22-2009 at 11:24 AM.
Tyler
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Tuner in Training
the trans is the one the car came with in 1989 muncie 5 speed the wiringharness is 2000 grand am and computer the motor is 2003 3400
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Advanced Tuner
It all makes sense now....
Before you go into anything too deep, you'll have to delete the automatic transmission off the PCM. As far as I know, it's just a matter of setting the automatic transmission codes to disabled.
Also, when you did the swap, did you wire the PCM so that it will 'see' the transmission as being in drive at all times?
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Tuner in Training
found vaccum leak fixed still runs the same p0131 does not come back now. log 1 is startup. log 2 was cruise. check coolant temp and tps % for other logs
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Tuner in Training
i did change trans codes and jumped wires so it thought it was in drive previousely but put it back to original so you would see everything but i will delete codes again and jump wires again
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Advanced Tuner
Does the car run better now that the vacuum leak is fixed?
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Tuner in Training
no change after repair of leak
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Advanced Tuner
Well, maybe return everything back to how you had it, with respect to the transmission.
As well, you will still want to delete the solenoid and torque converter codes.
Once everything is done, maybe post up another log.
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Tuner in Training
here are new logs after changes
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Tuner in Training
maybe something is wrong with the cam sensor?
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Senior Tuner
Hey Robert, Paul here. Here is the Config for you to use today so we can get into this thing.
Attachment 20608