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Thread: Cobra 39lb injector calibration

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    Cobra 39lb injector calibration

    Can anyone show me what to do in my tune im changing out my stock 28lb injectors and putting 03 cobra 39lb injectors in? I attached a copy of my tune thanks.
    2002 Pewter Trans Am WS6
    Performabuilt 4l80e and Yank PY3600 K&N FIPK Borla Exhaust No Cats Pacesetter LT's Pacesetter ORY Comp 232/236 595 600 110LSA PRC Dual Valve Springs NOS Nitrous 125 Wet Shot MSD 8.5 Plug Wires MSD Window Switch Competition Engineering Drag Shocks Custom Ghost Flames HSW Standalone Fuel System
    383RWHP 385RWTQ NA
    437RW on 125 shot unlocked 800 psi bottle pressure
    Motor 11.7 @ 115 1.6 60ft Spray 10.7 @ 125 1.46 60ft (times with 4l60e and yank ss4000)

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    Advanced Tuner 69lt1bird's Avatar
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    If you can get rid of them I would. They are not made for our engines.

    Check this out and call Jon at FIC.

    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/fuelin...injectors.html
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    1969 Firebird: 11.67@114 [email protected] 1/8 1.70 60 ft. EPS cam 234/246 .602.606 114+3, 6.0 LQ4, L92 heads milled 10.5:1, Ported L76 intake, ported 90mm Holley TB, 100mm MAF, FIC Custom injectors, Hooker LT, PYPES dual exhaust with an X pipe, 4L65e with all of the good parts inside, FTI 4000 RPM Stall, 12 bolt with 3.73 gears. HP Tuner tuned by me

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    Yeah I read that I got them for free and I know alot of people use them with success thanks for the heads up though.
    2002 Pewter Trans Am WS6
    Performabuilt 4l80e and Yank PY3600 K&N FIPK Borla Exhaust No Cats Pacesetter LT's Pacesetter ORY Comp 232/236 595 600 110LSA PRC Dual Valve Springs NOS Nitrous 125 Wet Shot MSD 8.5 Plug Wires MSD Window Switch Competition Engineering Drag Shocks Custom Ghost Flames HSW Standalone Fuel System
    383RWHP 385RWTQ NA
    437RW on 125 shot unlocked 800 psi bottle pressure
    Motor 11.7 @ 115 1.6 60ft Spray 10.7 @ 125 1.46 60ft (times with 4l60e and yank ss4000)

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    Advanced Tuner 69lt1bird's Avatar
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    The only place you will find the right injector data for these is in the DVD from Greg Banish. $250 from Summit.

    I personally ran these and they are ok but do not tune very good. The injectors spray the front and rear of the intake ports and the fuel puddles on the valve which causes inconsistent fueling.
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    Michigan Snowmobiler

    1969 Firebird: 11.67@114 [email protected] 1/8 1.70 60 ft. EPS cam 234/246 .602.606 114+3, 6.0 LQ4, L92 heads milled 10.5:1, Ported L76 intake, ported 90mm Holley TB, 100mm MAF, FIC Custom injectors, Hooker LT, PYPES dual exhaust with an X pipe, 4L65e with all of the good parts inside, FTI 4000 RPM Stall, 12 bolt with 3.73 gears. HP Tuner tuned by me

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    Yeah idk I figure I mite as well try them I got them free from a buddy worst case they dont workout good and ill get svo 42's.
    2002 Pewter Trans Am WS6
    Performabuilt 4l80e and Yank PY3600 K&N FIPK Borla Exhaust No Cats Pacesetter LT's Pacesetter ORY Comp 232/236 595 600 110LSA PRC Dual Valve Springs NOS Nitrous 125 Wet Shot MSD 8.5 Plug Wires MSD Window Switch Competition Engineering Drag Shocks Custom Ghost Flames HSW Standalone Fuel System
    383RWHP 385RWTQ NA
    437RW on 125 shot unlocked 800 psi bottle pressure
    Motor 11.7 @ 115 1.6 60ft Spray 10.7 @ 125 1.46 60ft (times with 4l60e and yank ss4000)

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    Senior Tuner eficalibrator's Avatar
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    The big trick to using different spray pattern injector is to recognize that the fuel to wall impact factor will likely need some significant work. I would start by increasing this table by ~20% and work from there.

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    Hey Greg,
    Would it be possible if you could elaborate on this? If its going to be a royal PITA to dial in these injectors, id much rather buy a new set of injectors..
    2001 Camaro SS

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    I want to use these injector on my boosted 98 4.3L V6 Jimmy.

    All there is under injector control is, offset, offset multiplier, flow rate, flow rate modifier vs. volts, short pulse limit, min pw and short pulse adder. Then under Injection Timing I have , Boundary and normal.

    I'm looking at this, (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/ics/m-9593-m39.pdf) right now and want to enter in the necessary info into my tune.

    My question is, since I have to scale these injectors to my fuel pressure does that mean that other things like offset, offset multiplier and all the other stuff need to be scaled to? Or does all that stay the same no matter what the FP is? I don't have flow rate mod vs. Kpa and my FPR is vacuum controlled.
    Last edited by 12sws27; 07-24-2010 at 05:48 PM.
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