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    Rich and Richer

    Ok, First off my Ltrims are negetive ( -9 to -15) and in PE my AFR is Low 10s below 3500rpm and drifts gradually up to 11.2 at 5700rpm shift point, Where is the best place to start for tuning this. Should I adjust my IFR? My commanded AFR is correct however my actuall is very rich. I am not sure where to start with this? any input?

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    NEVER ADJUST THE IFR UNLESS YOU SWAP INJECTORS!!!!!!

    May want to go through the writeups, sounds like they will help you out a good bit. To answer the question though, commanded will always be correct, and actual will be off due to the VE being incorrect, MAF being incorrect, or both.
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    Well I am running 43lb Injectors.

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    My IFR table pretty much matches what I came up with on one of Redhardsupra's spreadsheets, I know how to tune the VE table however it is the MAF table I am not sure of. I have been looking at speadsheets and such however still not quite sure how.

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    dont use spead sheets for anything but the IFR. I gave Marcin that sheet a while back and he hosed it on his site. It works well, just copy the injecotor values from there over to your tune and then everything else you can do with histograms. Just log AFR error vs MAF frequency and it will give you the % to change the MAF calibration, very simple.
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    I do not have the Pro versian so I cannot log my Wideband, so will I still be able to log the AFR Error? Unless I am missing somthing it seems to me that I would not be able too.

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    By all means please tell me that I am wrong...

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    you cannot log AFR error then. You will have to go by fuel trims, I would recommend getting a wideband and setting it up some way to log.
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    I have a wideband I just dont have the MPVI Pro to log it

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    This should help you get started:

    http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...2040#post52040
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    Will this still work being that I have no EGR? Is the wiring still there?

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    I don't know, however an alternative is to use the AC sensor as the input. A search should find the relevant post. Personally, I'd upgrade to the Pro version with the EIO. I did.
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