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Thread: Drag Mode 10r80

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    Drag Mode 10r80

    Hello guys just a quick question i know how the drag mode shifts in these gen 3 mustangs and they are firm enough but if want to even get more firm and jumps more forward what is the process to get that done ? I tried with adding some stroke pressure but that will only delay the oncoming clutch from engaging if anyone could direct me with the right table I will be thankful

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    Lowering the inertia phase multipliers will reduce the time it takes for inertia phase to execute. Stroke phase is only preparation for the shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engineermike View Post
    Lowering the inertia phase multipliers will reduce the time it takes for inertia phase to execute. Stroke phase is only preparation for the shift.
    Thank you mike, yeah i learned that stroke phase is only preparation for the shift from you, see attached photo lowering it to 0.20 is a good amount to firm it ? Screenshot_5.png

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    I’m guessing this is a 21+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by engineermike View Post
    I’m guessing this is a 21+?
    That is correct !

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    Screenshot_6.png Thats 2019 5.0

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    Ok so here’s the thing. Ford changed the way inertia phase times are calculated in 2021. There are tables hpt didn’t define for us that contain the actual times. Multipliers, that hpt did define, are then applied to the times.

    In 18-20, there are only one set of time tables for the different segments of the inertia phase. Then multipliers are applied for each shift character. In 21-23 they added different time tables for each character, but again you can’t see them. So you shouldnt just copy the 18-20 inertia phase multipliers to the 21-23 tables, because the result will not be the same as 18-20 due to the difference in the base time tables.

    If it were me, I would just start shaving off of the inertia phase multiplier tables maybe 10 or 20% at a time until you get where you want to be.

    FYI the 21-23 times and multipliers are definitely more developed and “elegant” than the 18-20.

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    [QUOTE=engineermike;837822]
    If it were me, I would just start shaving off of the inertia phase multiplier tables maybe 10 or 20% at a time until you get where you want to be.

    something wired just happened i just compared some files without adjusting any thing and the values changed lol ! Screenshot_8.png

    so shaving 10-20% will firm it enough like this Screenshot_9.png

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    No, I’d do it in the 30411 table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engineermike View Post
    No, I’d do it in the 30411 table.
    yeah for all the shifts starting from 30411 2-3 until 6-7

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