2011 Ram 1500 w/ new TSP Stage 3 5.7 won?t idle

[Manchu1984]

After a trashed cam replacement, I installed a TSP Stage 3 cam with phaser limiter. I replaced the lifters with Comp cam Non MDS and Did the delete plugs. Also installed a Mellings high Volume oil pump.

I have been messing with the Air/fuels for the past couple of days trying to get this thing to run with no luck. I?ve logged many of the tunes with my MVPI3 and keep chasing my tail. No matter what I do the fuel map keeps pulling 15-30 and it just dies out. Seems to run alright for awhile when cold, but hot is another story. Any help would be deeply appreciated.

[unicornpower]

There is a lot more to getting them to run then just messing with air tables. Post up your tune you are working with.

[Manchu1984]

Thanks for the reply unicorn.

[N2speed]

VE Table is wrong, you have ANN still on and that will ignore the VE table, you have not change any spark table/airflow or Idle RPM.

[mbray01]

did you verify correct pushrod length. actually measured. #1 reason i see on dodges for not wanting to idle, is pushrods too long and hanging valves open

[Manchu1984]

VE Table is wrong, you have ANN still on and that will ignore the VE table, you have not change any spark table/airflow or Idle RPM.

I'm still really new to this tuning thing. Grew up working on carbureted engines my whole life, so this tuning thing is a learning experience...... fun but, very tedious. I'm going to double check all of the startup RPMs and make sure I check the Neutral Network out. Thank you.

[Manchu1984]

Just put the same length factory push rods in. When I spoke with TSP they said that factory length would be fine. I do have a rod checker that I can verify that to be true though. Thanks you for the input.

[Manchu1984]

After it settles in a little the timing starts jumping all over the place and it all goes south from there.

[MI_Tuning]

First thing is the stock Push rod length isn't correct as even the stock file will allow it to start and it will idle until the 02 kick on , 2. there is alot of things you need to do to the tune for it to work right but you need to measure you push rod length and correct it . TSP always locks the VVT as well .

[Manchu1984]

I put the limiter in myself. I have the description of parts that came with it and it says limiter? I know most dodges have about 26* of VVT and It seems the limiter took about half of that away? I will however be verifying Push Rod length later this week. Not in a huge rush to fix this, just a father son project that has gotten a little techie. I appreciate your input though.