ZF 6HP26 TCM - Now Supported in 2.25 Beta

[Eric@HPTuners]

Eric , Any progress on being able to log knock????

Still working on it. I have to add it to each and every operating system we support, since there is not a PID for Knock Retard. Its a bit time consuming.

[Yortt]

Still working on it. I have to add it to each and every operating system we support, since there is not a PID for Knock Retard. Its a bit time consuming.

Eric
Thanks for the update, you say "since there is not a PID for Knock Retard." this would explain why SCT are saying the knock information is not in the data stream and cannot be logged. From your response it would appear logging knock is still possible with some extra work and will be included in 2.25 is this correct?
Thanks

[Grant LS1]

No it's in the datastream I think from what I remember when logging knock with SCT it's just a dynamic data stream item or something I think?

[Yortt]

Just to clarify I am referring to logging knock on the FG model yes SCT has knock logging on the FG and produces a trace but it has no structure to it and has been confirmed by Herrod that it does not work.
SCT are aware of the importance of logging knock however I am not aware of the expertise SCT have compared to HP Tuners but it concerns me that given SCT cannot log knock (FG model) maybe HP Tuners can't either, just hoping this is not the case.

[Eric@HPTuners]

The Spanish Oak does not support a Knock Retard PID. The only PIDs are for knock sensor voltage which is pretty useless. We can however log knock via DMR, which is retrieving it right out of RAM. This has to be done for each and every operating system, since the RAM address changes between operating systems.

[Grant LS1]

Yeah thats what I was talking about DMR!!!!

Hopefully less then "two weeks" LOL

[Yortt]

The Spanish Oak does not support a Knock Retard PID. The only PIDs are for knock sensor voltage which is pretty useless. We can however log knock via DMR, which is retrieving it right out of RAM. This has to be done for each and every operating system, since the RAM address changes between operating systems.

This certainly answers the question.

Eric given the number of DMR's requested and given the time taken so far to implement the DMR's is it possible to prioritise the ones that make the tool functional (such as Knock and wideband) and release this as a first stage release so we can at least use it?

[Eric@HPTuners]

This certainly answers the question.

Eric given the number of DMR's requested and given the time taken so far to implement the DMR's is it possible to prioritise the ones that make the tool functional (such as Knock and wideband) and release this as a first stage release so we can at least use it?

Yeah, that's what I intend to do. Get the major items in, and add the rest of the stuff later.

[Romulus]

Quick question. What adjustment to make and to which table to eliminate the dreaded 2-1 downshift when accelerating from standstill. Any other tips/tricks?

Cheers!

[Romulus]

Disregard, figured it out.

[45T-XR]

Anyone have any HP tuned Cars with a relatively similar setup to mine in the 500ish rwkw with a low mount turbo setup?
Still struggling with Trans truncation issues in 3rd gear pulls from 3,000-4,000rpm, Taking power out of it at that stage eliminates the problem. I really don't want to detune the car though, that is gayer than AIDS.

[Yortt]

Still working on it. I have to add it to each and every operating system we support, since there is not a PID for Knock Retard. Its a bit time consuming.

Eric
Any progress?

[Romulus]

Can we get a description of the 50 odd shift tables please. Thanks

[45T-XR]

Alright, I've made progress on the the stall clip Trans trunc, that issue is now gone, Only need to work through the 3/4th gear roll on torque reduction issues now. Then back to the track. 3.5 Bar T-map has also arrived so something else to play with there.

[misk]

Is there any plan to inlude the ability to program a zf6 to a different pcm or is this always going to need ids to be done?

[DarrylC]

When looking at a mates FG F6 ZF calibration I noticed that there are many tables missing in the ZF calibration for the BF. Here is the list of tables I found missing:

The missing tables on the BF are:

Transmission
   -> Auto Shift Speed
        Forbidden Shifts
   -> Auto Shift Properties
     -> Shift Pressure
       -> Switching Pressure
            Reduced 2 -> 1,Reduced 3 -> 2,Reduced 4 -> 3,Reduced 5 -> 4,Reduced 6 -> 5
    -> RAMP
       -> Boost Pressure
           Clutch A, Clutch B, Clutch C, Clutch D, Clutch E
       -> Boost Time
           Clutch A, Clutch B, Clutch C, Clutch D, Clutch E
     -> Torque Management
        -> General
          -> Torque Limit
              vs Gear, vs  Upshift, vs Downshift
           -> Torque Converted
               vs  Upshift, vs Downshift

I have attached a standard ZF tune for those interested.

Before I log this with support can other people check to see if they have these tables in the BF. The OS is 5R29-7J104-AD

Eric,

Would it be possible to add the ability to reset the adaptive learned values in the TCM's on B-series and FG series?

I am not having much luck tracking this down. My mechanic has a question in for Bosch about it but I have not been able to find a Ford IDS system that supports it nor even if this functionality exists. Anyone got any information or know if it can be done?

[hiddeous]

Darryl my 06 BFF6 is 5R29-7J104-AD and is missing the same tables as listed above (in both 2.25.2762 & 3.0.76)

[DarrylC]

Thanks hiddeous, I will log a support request.

[JETURBO]

No one has ever found a solution to reset the KAM of the ZF
Has to be done the long way

[DarrylC]

Thanks Jet, much appreciated. I will stop trying to track it down. If someone can do it please PM me and we will go from there.