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Thread: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

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    Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    Throwing this out on the bus doesn't seem to affect the activity at all.. anyone know what looks for this?
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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    Maybe, you need to start in Mode $10 and Mode $3F just keeps the modules on the network from leaving the diagnostic state. Just an idea, but the modules might not respond to Mode $3F unless their in Mode $10(Initiate Diagnostic Operation)
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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    What jfunk said is right...

    Modules are designed *not* to respond to the $3F mode.
    If a response were to be sent it would be ($3F+$40) $7F: General Response - but modules, as a rule do not respond to it.

    The purpose of $3F is a "keep alive" signal.
    If the scan tool has requested a certain diagnostic mode then the module or modules in those modes will stay in those modes as long as they "see" this $3F message periodically.

    It's a safe guard for if/when a scan tool is removed from the network without signalling to the on-board modules that it has finished. (i.e. someone just pulls the plug). Modules can safely "return to normal" and not remain in a "diagnostic" state.

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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    Thanks for the info guys.

    I have to do some more testing, perhaps this will keep the PCM unlocked during an idle process for an extended length of time.
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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    I did my testing and am able to keep the pcm unlocked indefinately using mode 3F.

    In PCM_Edit, I just setup a timer that sends it every 3 seconds in my flash read/write form (not released yet).
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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    Is three seconds the timeout period before the modules start talking in normal mode again?
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    Re: Mode $3F - Test Device Present, Whats it do?

    I believe its about 5 seconds.
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