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Thread: Gen 3 Coyote Control Pack Tune/OS in F150 ECU

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    Gen 3 Coyote Control Pack Tune/OS in F150 ECU

    I'm Finishing up my Gen 3 F150 coyote swap into my 87 Ranger. I've already licensed my F150 ecu (4 credits) with its original OS. Can I install the control pack OS into this ecu without having to buy more credits to license another OS to put into this ecu?
    I'm new to HP Tuners if you couldn't tell.

    Build details are as follows:
    87 Ranger
    2018 F150 5.0 engine and ECU
    Power By The Hour Body/Transmission harness for Gen 3 swaps
    T56 Magnum

    Currently have no crank, no fuel pump even after PATS delete.
    Be gentle on me please, it's my first time.
    Thanks in advance.
    Dan

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    Did you do the pats delete with hp tuners?

    You can do a data log in vcm scanner and log the torque source parameter. If it says pats then try the pats delete process again.

    i assume you are looking for the control pack OS since you are running a manual Trans?

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    Control packs are set up for a return style fuel system, you'll need to look into the way it's wired, but it won't use the stock FPDM. You would also need to make changes to account for the cams/phasers the mustang uses a different firing order, different exhaust phaser. Mustang uses a different MAF sensor as well and you'll need to change some wiring for it. It will probably be better to just use the stock strategy, maybe post the tune up here so people can look through the changes you've made.

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    If he used mustang harness that would work, if he used F150 harness that needs to be repined. You will have VCT sync error as F150 is different - this is something I can solve.
    This should start and run fine on F150 OS but not sure how you would make all the trans errors to go away - best option is to get a MT OS but there are none for F150.
    You would want to get 3 gen Mustang OS and go from here - gonna change OS this way or another.

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    Fuel system is return style already, PATS was deleted with HP tuners and shows its deleted, ECU does not see that its in Neutral even with Force Neutral enabled so it has a no start condition. I have had it running with the help of starting fluid and jumping the starter. once it sees running RPM it will continue to run, but I know it's not right. I have the engine harness from a 2018 F150, ECU from 2019 F150.
    Body and transmission side harnesses are from Power By The Hour Gen 3 coyote swap harness for F150 and Mustang both Manual and auto. It has clutch switch and select shift leads to wire in these components, manual or auto respectively. Harness is Made to run MAP and MAF. Adding a MAF is in the works as we speak. PBH tells me they install the Control pack OS and run MAF into these F150 ECU.
    I want to know if I have to spend more credits to install the Control Pack OS into this already licensed ecu?
    Repinning the engine harness isn't a problem to compensate for the different firing order if needed but I'm told that can be changed in the tune on the control pack OS.
    Your input is appreciated
    Thanks

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    This is the gen 2 PBH sheet that shows you the tune changes for the truck cam setup to work with the control pack firing order: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...U/edit?tab=t.0. They will probably email you one for gen 3 if you ask for it (it might be the same).

    You will have to spend credits to write the control pack strategy. I think their harness relocates the IAT into the MAF sensor harness, if that's the case then you need to run a mustang MAF sensor instead of the truck one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B E N View Post
    This is the gen 2 PBH sheet that shows you the tune changes for the truck cam setup to work with the control pack firing order: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...U/edit?tab=t.0. They will probably email you one for gen 3 if you ask for it (it might be the same).

    You will have to spend credits to write the control pack strategy. I think their harness relocates the IAT into the MAF sensor harness, if that's the case then you need to run a mustang MAF sensor instead of the truck one.

    Actually spark table does not change physical firing order, that is just for diagnostics and can really be omitted.

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    The Gen 3 Truck doesn't use maf at all. Just map. Harness has maf sensor lead installed. Already purchased maf for mustang, emailed PBH about changes...
    Have had the truck running but still won't start with the key on the F150 ECU. If I'm going to be changing it out for control pack OS then I I'm not going to spend much more time trying to figure that out but focus on mounting the intercooler up front and rad in the bed. 40lbs of poop in a 5lb bag is what this little truck is.

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    Just noticed I didn't mention the twin turbos. Didn't really apply to my initial questions.