cannels and charts for newbie diags?

[w313zrd]

Hey all, any pros out there willing to share some of there channels and charts (xml?s). ive managed to pull a couple of log files(from various posts) and then saved off some useful information(channels) but some of it is quite overwhelming being fresh on this scene.

or even a previous post ive not stumbled upon would help.

my current diag problem is a rough idle after start, and initial take off hesitation; both when warm(not cold and not up to full temp) start.

thank all
will

[RaceReadyTuning]

Race Ready Tuning GM Gen V.Channels.xml
Race Ready GM Gen V Layout.Layout.xml

These are our Generic channels to start with when tuning Gen V vehicles.
If you're doing VVE on a stock cam or VVT camshaft vehicle, you'll need to set the corresponding filtering function in the histograms for whatever positions you'll be targetting.

These should give you majority, if not all the info needed to get majority of the Gen V vehicles dialed in.
If you are wanting to tune Injection Timing you will also need to add Primary SOI and Primary EOI to the channel list. I have a tab pre-built for the injection stuff also at the bottom but I don't run SOI or EOI in these channels on my laptop as it causes these channels to run very slowly and sucks to get data. I end up changing my channels to solely Injection Timing Channel list when it comes to that. If you have a nice laptop, you may be able to add them both without any issues.

[w313zrd]

Race Ready Tuning GM Gen V.Channels.xml
Race Ready GM Gen V Layout.Layout.xml

These are our Generic channels to start with when tuning Gen V vehicles.
If you're doing VVE on a stock cam or VVT camshaft vehicle, you'll need to set the corresponding filtering function in the histograms for whatever positions you'll be targetting.

These should give you majority, if not all the info needed to get majority of the Gen V vehicles dialed in.
If you are wanting to tune Injection Timing you will also need to add Primary SOI and Primary EOI to the channel list. I have a tab pre-built for the injection stuff also at the bottom but I don't run SOI or EOI in these channels on my laptop as it causes these channels to run very slowly and sucks to get data. I end up changing my channels to solely Injection Timing Channel list when it comes to that. If you have a nice laptop, you may be able to add them both without any issues.

thanks, here is a log... went out earlier so the truck was ideal for showcasing my issue, with idle..

.25-07-10 14-05-24.hpl

any insights will help. and greatly appreciated, looking to learn. if nothing leans to a hardware issue ill drop in the tune you passed me on my other post. and start this steep learning curve. thanks again.
Will

[96GS007]

MAF and VVE are way off. Overall it's very rich. You need to fix those before diving into anything else.

I added the channels and layout I use for idle and low rpm diagnostics. Some are there in order to use Cringer's MAF and VVE tools as well as CYN_CRVR's Driver Demand tool. Everyone has their own preferences

[w313zrd]

MAF and VVE are way off. Overall it's very rich. You need to fix those before diving into anything else.

I added the channels and layout I use for idle and low rpm diagnostics. Some are there in order to use Cringer's MAF and VVE tools as well as CYN_CRVR's Driver Demand tool. Everyone has their own preferences

thanks! mechanical issues for running rich.. poor spark, or bad injectors... two things i havent touched yet....

[96GS007]

I'm not a truck guy but the cam you listed in your other thread is advertised as "stock" for nearly every vehicle built with a Gen V LT1 or similar. Soooo, I did a compare of your tune file to a couple stock Corvette LT1 files and a Camaro file. As I expected, there are differences across the board, including the MAF and the VVE tables, External Load, and on and on.

My 30 second eyeball analysis calibrated with your fuel trims from the log you uploaded says that the Corvette and Camaro tables more closely match this cam than your truck tune.

With that as a backdrop, I think you need to work the tune vs looking for mechanical issues. This and $5 will almost buy you a cup of coffee these days....but that's my opinion.

[Ghostnotes]

Race Ready Tuning GM Gen V.Channels.xml
Race Ready GM Gen V Layout.Layout.xml

These are our Generic channels to start with when tuning Gen V vehicles.
If you're doing VVE on a stock cam or VVT camshaft vehicle, you'll need to set the corresponding filtering function in the histograms for whatever positions you'll be targetting.

These should give you majority, if not all the info needed to get majority of the Gen V vehicles dialed in.
If you are wanting to tune Injection Timing you will also need to add Primary SOI and Primary EOI to the channel list. I have a tab pre-built for the injection stuff also at the bottom but I don't run SOI or EOI in these channels on my laptop as it causes these channels to run very slowly and sucks to get data. I end up changing my channels to solely Injection Timing Channel list when it comes to that. If you have a nice laptop, you may be able to add them both without any issues.

I dont post often on here anymore and just want to say it's nice seeing someone offering a helping hand, without asking for money. That seemed to be a big issue a few years ago. You even sent out some charts and tables to help get started.....that's cool. I never had a problem giving out pid's layouts and math functions to anybody, no matter how much time i put into them. This was always supposed to be a learning forum.

Cheers.

[w313zrd]

I'm not a truck guy but the cam you listed in your other thread is advertised as "stock" for nearly every vehicle built with a Gen V LT1 or similar. Soooo, I did a compare of your tune file to a couple stock Corvette LT1 files and a Camaro file. As I expected, there are differences across the board, including the MAF and the VVE tables, External Load, and on and on.

My 30 second eyeball analysis calibrated with your fuel trims from the log you uploaded says that the Corvette and Camaro tables more closely match this cam than your truck tune.

With that as a backdrop, I think you need to work the tune vs looking for mechanical issues. This and $5 will almost buy you a cup of coffee these days....but that's my opinion.

thanks! looking into Cringers tool, but im not clear on which histogram to pull from the log? and what if any tuneing(setup) would be needed prior to pulling th log. im missing a setup post(forumfuns)

25-07-11 11-19-50.hpl

[96GS007]

For Cringer's tools, use "MAF CL" and "MAF CL Dummy" for the MAF tool. For VVE, use "VVE CL" They have the filters in them.

I recommend looking at his "how to" videos until you're comfortable with the steps and the terminology. Just in case of download issues, always double-check the filters (the math is on his public Google drive) and also check the axis in the log to make sure it aligns to the axis in the tables in your tune file. By axis, it can also be the MAF frequency buckets as well as horizontal and vertical "axis" in a conventional sense

[w313zrd]

vve tables viable for edit... manifold closed, open, dod manifold open, dod manifold closed, intake angles from-20to+20(/1deg) ... 4*41=164 tables to tweak... since im assume the head cleanup has dropped my base cyl volume, (i get in my case no DOD i could loose half that work) am i missing something? the caveman in me whats a simple fix, the analytic sees much work ahead. (wanna turn a screw, not get lost in the land of 1/0's) any yall experienced guys in Michigan?