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    Quote Originally Posted by mychevyisntheavy View Post
    its the past 3 logs on the tune in the post. i log, put the data i the cells smooth just a small amount, cause if i dont it idles real high. go do a drive in speed density, log the thing and repeat, but not getting no where. its wanting more fuel in higher rpm. from what i see, but if i go bye the error its pulling fuel. i dont get this
    Are they all the same tune or before and after changes. And it would help if you were specific about the areas that you are having a problem with. Time stamp or screen shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mychevyisntheavy View Post
    i keep getting red and blue, in the logs i put in the errors, smooth the edges . put the tune in the pcm. log agian and the same areas wanting the same crap. please tell me where im going wrong. please. im tried of this.
    Here are screen shots of your 3 logs, I understand your confusion.
    These can't be from that one tune file as one is in Open loop, the other 2 are closed too and day and night apart... (the open loop log graph is from AFR error on wideband, the other 2 are fuel trim errors)...

    Open Loop3.jpg OPEN LOOP 2.jpg OPEN LOOP 4.jpg
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    i am trying not to go in pe, im slowly pushing the pedal down but steadly pushing to the floor. trying to get the cells filled up not flooring it from a dig. just slow as i merge onto the highway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhoagland View Post
    Here are screen shots of your 3 logs, I understand your confusion.
    These can't be from that one tune file as one is in Open loop, the other 2 are closed too and day and night apart... (the open loop log graph is from AFR error on wideband, the other 2 are fuel trim errors)...

    Open Loop3.jpg OPEN LOOP 2.jpg OPEN LOOP 4.jpg
    all three are from the same tune. in the vehicle special functions . i do turn off the open loop and the ltft settings right, or just leave those things alone.?
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    ive never have done a wide open dig yet with this thing i know the tune is way off. im gonna get it dyno tuned here soon and then you guys will be done with my dumass, sorry, i just cant get this im trying my best. just cant do it. and i work on crap as a mechanic, but not this type of stuff id go broke if i did. why did they change from carburetors and distributors...thanks alot for your input.
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    i went back to where you guys told me to us both afr, and tirms . i using that tune. im gonna log with this tune. so here in abit ill back in here with this tune and the log for this tune. i will not make any changes to the tune, ill log the scan and up load it in here with the tune untoched. so you guys can look it over. all i know to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mychevyisntheavy View Post
    i went back to where you guys told me to us both afr, and tirms . i using that tune. im gonna log with this tune. so here in abit ill back in here with this tune and the log for this tune. i will not make any changes to the tune, ill log the scan and up load it in here with the tune untoched. so you guys can look it over. all i know to do.
    Just post logs and tune as a pair each time. And the tune should be the one that was in the vehicle at the time the log is made, prior to any corrections. If you post them as a pair every time, there isn't any confusion. No need to post a tune prior to making the log. The more orderly you do this, the easier it is to help you.

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    ok here is the tune before i touch it. here is the log of the same tune. slow steady throttle.
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    does this look right to you guys, smh. this was done with the ltft&stft from my scanner
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    this tune was tuned with afr error, in my scanner
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    see why im having problems!!!!! which do i go bye..??????
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    Slow down, one pair at a time. It gets extremely confusing for everyone trying to help you. If this says this:
    Screenshot 2025-07-31 175728.png

    Don't even worry about what the wideband says at this point, unless it is really high or low, if it is showing around 14.7 your trims are doing what they are supposed to do.

    I took the unedited pair you posted and applied the log to the tune and did some smoothing, give it a try if you'd like, post a log of it if you try it.

    hptuners.forum.speed.density.tuning.lower.timing (2)thomas.west.TW Edit.hpt
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    Quote Originally Posted by twenglish1 View Post
    Slow down, one pair at a time. It gets extremely confusing for everyone trying to help you. If this says this:
    Screenshot 2025-07-31 175728.png

    Don't even worry about what the wideband says at this point, unless it is really high or low, if it is showing around 14.7 your trims are doing what they are supposed to do.

    I took the unedited pair you posted and applied the log to the tune and did some smoothing, give it a try if you'd like, post a log of it if you try it.

    hptuners.forum.speed.density.tuning.lower.timing (2)thomas.west.TW Edit.hpt
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    sorry fellows just been really busy, ill post one tomorrow. i just want to thank you guys alot.
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    have any of you guys seen a ve that looks like mine, really this things is god awful. smh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mychevyisntheavy View Post
    all three are from the same tune. in the vehicle special functions . i do turn off the open loop and the ltft settings right, or just leave those things alone.?
    Sorry I missed this earlier...
    I never use the special functions to put the vehicle in open loop or disable fuel trims when I'm logging, I'm not saying that some people don't I've just never heard of it...
    I was taught to put the tune in what ever mode you are going to be logging.
    So what I believe you are trying to do is Speed Denisity (so MAF Fail in the tune file), Closed Loop, using Long Term and Short Term Fuel trims to create an Air Fuel Error log in your graph to adjust your VE table...

    So once your tune is set for your desired Tuning mode, and the last time I looked it was, you just go out and drive as smooth as you can and collect data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhoagland View Post
    Sorry I missed this earlier...
    I never use the special functions to put the vehicle in open loop or disable fuel trims when I'm logging, I'm not saying that some people don't I've just never heard of it...
    I was taught to put the tune in what ever mode you are going to be logging.
    So what I believe you are trying to do is Speed Denisity (so MAF Fail in the tune file), Closed Loop, using Long Term and Short Term Fuel trims to create an Air Fuel Error log in your graph to adjust your VE table...

    So once your tune is set for your desired Tuning mode, and the last time I looked it was, you just go out and drive as smooth as you can and collect data.
    rest the codes it had; mass air flow, knocks, and it has this on going trans it sometimes doesnt see the shifter.(which gear it is in). rest those. i did reset the idle to to get the counts between 40 - 60 on the iac. other than that i havent did nothing to the tune. can you look at the idle area , its doing better but it dips in gear. if in park its great but in gear it smooth then falls , it did die few times. once i come uo to like a stop light or anytime im in gear with the brake once i let go of the brake its fine. i think it might need less follower. the ve look horriable to the eye.
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    sorry, i log one earlier and put in the errors and changed the reds to the greenish color. and just smooth one time. a over all smooth. just onces. only thing i did was, i changed the cracker to see if i could stop the idle surging. if you watch the log at the end its still doing it but alittle better. it didnt die this time. looks like the iac goes to zero or 1, then catches its self. i did tune it with the last log, and drove to get a new log, here they both are. pss. a i changed the iac sensor with one i had. its new. so let me see how this does. but the tuning no i havent changed it this is the tune and the lastest log.



    pssss. on the tuning if like for instances you have; 94.55 in on cell and 93.66 and 99.68 . i interpolated from 99.68 to 94.55changing the 93.66 so that its in line. i made those chanes if i saw that any area was out of line. then smooth one time . this is right? i hope?
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    The colors don't really mean anything, and someone would have to use your xml configuration to see them the way you see them.

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    the colors im seeing is from the ltft&stft. using the math to make error table by half%. some areas is like a blueish green, and other areas is like pink... to make the pink into the bluesish green color you hit the smooth or interpolate between the blueish green so like bluis green say (57.21 blueish green) and (61.48 is pink)(then blueish green 63.01) interpolate to make the pink to a lower bluish green. once i have the whole errors a blueish green in color and following in order of numbers i smooth one time.
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